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I don't have anything out in front of

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you at 12 to 1 o'clock

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okay he's down well below you or did you

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can you get it out uh an estimate on an

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altitude on it well it's real difficult

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we're in between layers here I'm just

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gonna estimate of two to three two

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thousand feet below us maybe and uh so

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Paul sitting right about I don't know 10

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miles out

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I'll keep my eyes open but I don't see

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anything head Northwest of Detroit did

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you see that light yeah that's where I

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saw at a real bright white light

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sometimes flicker underneath the clouds

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air shuttle 5959 is that traffic uh that

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you saw earlier did you see them out

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there any longer yeah

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and that's affirmative and it's a light

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that kind of it goes dim and it gets

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bright I don't know if we'll get closer

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to it or what but it looks like a

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rotating light around it like a like a

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frisbee type thing and it's going around

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it yeah so stop at 3179 do you see the

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same thing uh sir I saw it coming out of

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Detroit I wondered uh what I saw was

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just a couple real bright flashes of

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light and it almost looked like

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lightning and it caught my eye and then

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I kept watching it and then it looked a

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little bit less bright but it looked

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like it was underneath the cloud deck to

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me and this is just as we're coming out

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of Detroit okay and can you get an

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altitude on it all the light that I saw

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was it's like maybe I don't know 25

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miles Northwest of Detroit is that what

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you're referring to or are you talking

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about the light that's at our 12 o'clock

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now about 10 miles any kind of Target

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out here at 12 o'clock oh well you got

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some kind of white light out there at 12

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o'clock and the captain uh since it's

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about the same place that it's been the

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whole here for about 10 or 15 minutes

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okay air shuttle 59 59 contact Saginaw

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approach control 126.45 I appreciate the

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information

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31.79 the target looks like it's uh

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below us to make maybe 10 000 feet

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around 10 000 feet what would you think

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it might be like a reflection uh maybe

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perhaps off a beacon that for some

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reason is just one of those weird things

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uh natural phenomenas and uh you're

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getting a reflection because I got

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nothing out there I don't know I mean we

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can see a clear you know relatively

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solid Cloud deck uh below us and this is

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definitely a distinct whitish uh well

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they're cooking a little red and

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greenish light sort of pulsating and it

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is consonant it's not a beacon and claim

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a national 59.59 go ahead sir yeah hey

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we're concerning the 4 000 feet right

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now and as we descended through ten

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thousand feet that object is a promise

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right now it is not on the ground it's

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about ten thousand feet okay sir we're

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checking on it right now I still don't

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have anything out in front of you at all

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that I'm showing it I appreciate you

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coming back to the frequency and let me

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know all right I'll keep it right let's

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say what that is weird

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let's have a 31.79 where is it relative

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to you right now o'clock sir I'm trying

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to do a little investigating as to what

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this might be and if you would keep me

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advised on this okay sir I'm gonna break

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my lights

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at 31.79 was the other guy that saw that

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light was he

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found or was he here well he was inbound

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to Saginaw and actually when I sent him

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over to Saginaw I expected that would be

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the last I heard from he came back up on

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the frequency and advised me that his

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clearance was down to 4 000 now and then

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he he said what he saw was still up

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above him and was like a red he said it

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was a red and green light that was uh

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pulsing and like rotating and he said

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he'd keep me advised man give us a

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report once he got into Santa if you

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don't have a camera on board do you we

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could probably get one from a passenger

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you want to ask yeah that'd be kind of

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interesting to have a couple pictures I

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think it might make our case a little

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[Applause]

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when you flashed your lights did you get

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any response okay

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[Applause]

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okay

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send you over to Minneapolis now sir is

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it still out your 12 o'clock all right

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Megan said about our two o'clock now we

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uh made a turn

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okay so it's off your top your right

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side about two o'clock I'd sure be

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interested to see those pictures can I

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uh get you an address that you might be

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able to send a copy if you guys get the

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copy of them yeah I'm sure we can do

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that and actually we made a right turn

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and he's off about 10 to 11 o'clock okay

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31.79 go ahead

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[Applause]

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what you're looking at and you might be

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able to get a position with this guy if

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you want to go that far

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okay great that's a good idea I